Sure, why not?

[enemyofperfect]

Comment with the name of a ship and I will explain why I ship it/don't ship it.

Except that, being me, it's entirely possible that even if I don't ship it to begin with, I'll have invented a rationale before I reach the end of my comment. So, you know. Do with that information as you will!

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[poulpette]

Heh, because I am curious, Darcy/Tony from the MCU? (if you're game also: Darcy/Steve, Darcy/Fury)

this turned into a lot of words

[enemyofperfect]

Okay, this is going to be like two memes in one, because I have actually managed not to see any of the relevant movies and will be basing my answers almost entirely on fanfic. That said, and with the awareness that what I'm saying might have only the flimsiest relationship to the MCU itself, let me see!

I think I mostly don't ship Darcy/Tony, because I get the sense that being in a relationship with Tony is kind of a full-time job, and I'm just not sure she'd want to put that much work into it. I mean, she's clearly comfortable hanging out with geniuses, but I see her preferring the absentminded variety to the wild-eyed one? And I think basically she'd be too laid-back a dom for Tony; I imagine him feeling really anxious and adrift, like there wasn't anything he could completely count on. So that'd be sad. They might be really awesome in a casual fling or a low-pressure poly sort of situation, though, I would definitely read that fic. Other appealing scenarios: fake dating; writing each other smoking hot porn under fannish pseudonyms; trading horrifying relationship advice.

Darcy/Steve is adorable and fabulous and I totally ship it! He's all clean-cut and maybe a little lost in the dating scene, and she's all snarky and clear on what she wants, and together they are just delicious. She isn't going to treat him like he's made of spun glass! It would never even cross his mind to hide the fact that he thinks she's the greatest! Yes, they're delightful.

Darcy/Fury had never occurred to me, but now that it has, I'm kind of intrigued. I mean, does Nick Fury even have a personal life? Does he sleep, or does he just scowl in a meditative way for a few minutes until his brain is at 100% efficiency once more? I do not know the answer to these questions. But the thing is, if anyone would have a chance with him, it'd totally be Darcy Lewis, if she put her mind to it. I mean, sure, he's more than twice her age, but he's also Nick Fury, and if she was into that, who could blame her? And it's hard for me to imagine someone not being into Darcy. So that just leaves the question of whether he'd pretend he wasn't interested. I vote no!

Re: this turned into a lot of words

[poulpette]

Heh, Darcy/Fury totally blindsided me the first time I saw it. I had trouble believing what my eyes were seeing because at first it does seem a little ludicrous but after that, you nailed it: ut the thing is, if anyone would have a chance with him, it'd totally be Darcy Lewis, if she put her mind to it. I mean, sure, he's more than twice her age, but he's also Nick Fury, and if she was into that, who could blame her? And it's hard for me to imagine someone not being into Darcy.

Steve/Darcy is too cute for words. It's also one of my favorite ships atm. There's so much variation possible <3

Tony, I mostly see as a fountain of snark, and really cocky/sure of himself and of the effect he has on (almost all) women. I think Darcy'd work well with hime because she'd never let him get away with it, and she would just snark back right at him. I think they mesh pretty well, but it doesn't have to be a romantic pairing to me, they work really really well as just good friends too :) Thouhgh, your arguments make a lot of sense to me too :P

Re: this turned into a lot of words

[enemyofperfect]

Well, do keep in mind, my take is entirely filtered through fanon! :D But yeah, Tony and Darcy snarking together is a thing I approve of. They would snark all the snark, it'd be amazing.

[hedda62]

Well, Finch/Reese, obviously. :) Also, if you want, Shaw/Root.

[enemyofperfect]

Finch/Reese: Because their love is canon. I'm a little more careful about how I say this since I saw someone making the argument that it'd be messed up if they weren't fucking, on the grounds that it's somehow messed up to care about someone that much without having sex with them (???), but to me, it's kind of like the heat and pressure of their relationship are sufficient that they've passed the emotional critical point: distinctions that previously made sense have ceased to meaningfully apply. Whether you interpret their relationship as sexual or romantic or queerplatonic involved or what, they're still very clearly in love. OTP.

Shaw/Root: So wrong, and yet so potentially exquisite in its wrongness I'm not sure I care that it isn't right. I'm slightly terrified of where the show might take them, but the fannish possibilities are amazing -- and hey, Finch and Reese started out with nonconsensual bondage and threatened strangulation, so what's a little torture and shooting between friends? They're both so isolated and so damaged, in very different ways: Root can actually smile, and Shaw understands what a conscience is and why someone might have one. Basically, the more I think about them, the more I want to keep thinking about them. I think that works out to "do ship".

[hedda62]

and hey, Finch and Reese started out with nonconsensual bondage and threatened strangulation, so what's a little torture and shooting between friends?

Absolutely. :) And yes, I totally agree: Shaw/Root is fascinating to contemplate, and Finch/Reese just is.

Finch/Reese

[pendrecarc]

I have strong feelings on people declaring their ships are canon, no doubt related to my strong feelings on people assuming any sufficiently intense relationship must be romantic and sexual at its core, but this is an exception. You've hit the nail on the head with the emotional critical point. I'll gladly read fic that portrays the relationship as sexual or romantic or queerplatonic, though I don't think we'll ever get anything but the last in canon, but it is very definitely a Romantic relationship, capital R.

(And hello again! I've found my way back to your journal via comments on friends' posts, which I'm taking as a good sign. :) )

Re: Finch/Reese

[enemyofperfect]

Oh, I'm so glad what I was trying to say came across at all! I have so many feelings about the two of them, but I also have a lot of feelings about placing baseless and artificial restrictions on the kinds of connection human beings are capable of. (Also, selfishly, I want all possible stories about these characters, not just variations on one or two.)

Hello again to you as well! Oh my gosh, I adore your icon. She's really something, isn't she?

Re: Finch/Reese

[pendrecarc]

Also, selfishly, I want all possible stories about these characters, not just variations on one or two.

And that, right there, is why we have fanfic in the first place.

Oh, she is fabulous. I am so happy about S3. It is going to be epic.

Re: Finch/Reese

[enemyofperfect]

I'm actually a little worried about how high my hopes for season three are. I mean, I had no idea where they were going to go from "Firewall", and then it was absolutely amazing, so you might think I could have a little trust -- and I do have a little trust, really! It's just that my hope so far outstrips it... *flails*

oh my gosh I tried to bear it

[enemyofperfect]

But I can't: my compulsive little heart just cannot let my above comment stand any longer.

Whether you interpret their relationship as sexual or romantic or queerplatonic involved or what

That, that is how that line was supposed to go.

Thank you.

[emef]

Sherlock/Joan!

Bonus shot in the dark: Gilmore Girls, Rory/Paris?

[enemyofperfect]

OMG, I have such complicated feelings about Sherlock/Joan! On the one hand, I have so much love -- no, I mean, SO MUCH LOVE -- for the existence of this strong platonic f/m relationship. Like, these are my childhood dreams being realized, here. SO MANY FEELINGS. Also they are just objectively the best -- except for Sherlock's sexism, which he needs to cut out, okay -- and I don't want anything about them to change, except for them both to continually grow as people and fall ever more deeply in (platonic) love.

But on the other hand, I'm kind of thinking about discussions you'll see sometimes about the kind of dudeslash that requires whisking female love interests out of the way first, where some people say they like slash because you can escape the creepy gender norms that are all too easy to fall into with het, and other people say, but isn't that a reason to write better het, not to write women out of the picture entirely? (Meanwhile, no one ever writes enough femslash. Hey, have you seen the epic genderswap 1950s femme/butch Sherlock fic by breathedout? Words cannot.) As much as I want to cling to and treasure Joan and Sherlock's canon non-shippiness, shipping them well also seems like an undeniably worthwhile venture, not to mention hot. And part of the beauty of fanfic is that we can in fact have it both ways, or rather in so many different ways that it's laughable to think of being restricted to just two.

Ultimately, in my heart of hearts, I think I mostly don't ship them, simply because I like them even better as they are. However, I will always be in favor of all the non-sexual D/S between them. You know that amazing fic Paler Than Grass where Sherlock keeps getting in the way of Joan's dates? I finally got around to reading it last night (largely because I remembered your reccing it), and oh, the beautiful D/S. ♥

[catharsis_logs]

Hrrrm.

Spock/Uhura from Star Trek nu!verse

Steve Rogers/Nick Fury (the movies!verse) [Think of the drama!~]

aaaand.... huehuehue... Reese/Fusco or Fusco/Carter.

I AM a crack-shipper. XD

[enemyofperfect]

Spock/Uhura: alshglkashgalk I love them. ♥ ♥ ♥ Mind you, I've only seen the first reboot movie, but I absolutely adore them in that. He respects and listens to her, and is wholly aware of her awesomeness! She wants to respect his boundaries, and works to do so even when it's hard for her! They communicate, and I feel like you can see them refining the way they interact with each other over the course of the movie. They are just so great, seriously. ♥

Steve/Fury: So I actually... haven't seen any movies they're in yet. *cough* But far be it from me to let ignorance keep me from forming an opinion, so let's see! They certainly hadn't ever occurred to me as a couple, but I can imagine some possibilities here. On the one hand, for some reason I could totally see an incongruously fluffy, domestic take where Steve just makes a lot of heart-eyes at him until finally Fury sighs and takes him home, and they are very adorable. But on the other hand -- OH MY GOSH THEY COULD BE TERRIFYING TOGETHER. I mean, Steve is literally a national icon, and as the head of SHIELD, Fury has like a ton of power, and suddenly now I'm imagining this really gritty, intense dynamic, where Steve is anything but naive and obviously Fury isn't either, and they're both constantly playing politics, with each other and with the entire rest of the world, and... oh my gosh. I would read that epic.

OH LOOK, IT'S PERSON OF INTEREST. :D :D :D

OMG, there is actually a fair bit of Reese/Fusco fic out there! When I came up with the idea on my own, though, before I stumbled upon any of it, I totally viewed it as a ridiculous pairing... and then promptly gave myself two plotbunnies for it. *facepalm* I don't really ship them ship them; I mean, their interactions are approximately 90% hate-flirting, even after they mellow into not actually hating each other that much, but as for an actual relationship, I don't so much see it. What I mostly tended to imagine, then, was a sufficiently desperate Reese deciding that Fusco was so morally bankrupt that Reese couldn't possibly corrupt him -- or get too attached -- and that that made him perfect. And then Fusco being like, well, okay.

Carter/Fusco, I pretty much don't ship, and that's interesting to me, because I love each of them individually, and I actually really love them as partners, or at least I did in season one. I love the sheer respect he has for her, and I love... well, basically I love the way she's totally suspicious of him, with good reason. Maybe if he were solidly established as a reformed character, and they were just really comfortable with each other -- then, I think I could ship them in an easy, low-key, we-get-along-great-and-the-sex-ain't-bad kind of way. Actually, that could be pretty adorable, now that I think about it. OMG. He would get her, like, these random romantic little gifts he'd hand over all sweaty-palmed and anxiously casual, and look adoring when she won yet another commendation, and she would -- oh my gosh. She'd tell Reese to back the hell off and stop looming at her guy, is what she'd do. And she'd insist on weekly dates -- not fancy dates, almost more like teenagers-on-a-budget dates, but they would seriously have the most fun. And yeah, I've convinced myself here, haven't I? Oh my gosh. THANKS FOR THAT, DUDE. :D

(p.s. I have not forgotten our other excellent conversation, I promise, I just keep getting distracted by things. like fanfic. and other things. but soon!)